{"id":260022,"date":"2026-07-13T14:14:48","date_gmt":"2026-07-13T12:14:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.npwj.org\/?p=260022"},"modified":"2026-07-14T15:01:14","modified_gmt":"2026-07-14T13:01:14","slug":"solomy-balungi-bossa-member-of-the-international-criminal-court-trump-views-us-the-same-way-as-terrorists-and-drug-peddlers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.npwj.org\/it\/npwj-in-the-news\/solomy-balungi-bossa-member-of-the-international-criminal-court-trump-views-us-the-same-way-as-terrorists-and-drug-peddlers\/","title":{"rendered":"Solomy Balungi Bossa, member of the International Criminal Court: \u2018Trump views us the same way as terrorists and drug peddlers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-dtm-region=\"articulo_firma\"><em>The 70-year-old Ugandan is one of the ICC judges sanctioned by Washington due to the court\u2019s ongoing investigations involving the United States and Israel<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-dtm-region=\"articulo_firma\"><a href=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-07-12\/solomy-balungi-bossa-member-of-the-international-criminal-court-trump-views-us-the-same-way-as-terrorists-and-drug-peddlers.html\">Natalia Junquera, El Pais, 12 July 2026<\/a><\/p>\n<div data-dtm-region=\"articulo_firma\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Solomy Balungi Bossa, 70, is a Ugandan appeals judge at the International Criminal Court (ICC). She\u2019s one of the judges who have been sanctioned by President Donald Trump for conducting investigations involving the United States and Israel.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">She recently participated in an event in Madrid that was part of a <strong>campaign organized by the Eumans civic movement and No Peace Without Justice (NPWJ)<\/strong> \u2014 supported by six Nobel laureates \u2014 to defend the work of international justice. Before joining the ICC in 2018 for a nine-year term, Bossa worked at the United Nations International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR).<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Question.<\/b> During a public event, you once said: \u201cI became a judge to help women.\u201d What\u2019s the first instance of discrimination you remember?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Answer. <\/b>The Uganda Women Lawyers Association had a legal aid project for women who had problems with the law and who were indigent. It\u2019s really the first time I realized the dire situation in which women find themselves, for no fault of their own. Society is structured like that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">I represented a client who was a nurse and the man said, \u201cDon\u2019t go to work. Sit around and look after the children.\u201d So she quit her career. Then, the man turned against her. He sold all their property. We were in and out of court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">One woman came to us and said: \u201c<a title=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/science-tech\/2026-04-04\/following-the-initial-trials-in-africa-of-the-groundbreaking-drug-that-could-put-an-end-to-aids.html\" href=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/science-tech\/2026-04-04\/following-the-initial-trials-in-africa-of-the-groundbreaking-drug-that-could-put-an-end-to-aids.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-link-track-dtm=\"\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/science-tech\/2026-04-04\/following-the-initial-trials-in-africa-of-the-groundbreaking-drug-that-could-put-an-end-to-aids.html\">I have AIDS<\/a>. I was infected by a man who died and now his family says I killed him. They want to throw me and the children out of the house. I have nowhere to go.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">This experience exposed me to the structural problems of our patriarchal society. The law isn\u2019t very helpful, either. At that time, divorce grounds were different for men and women. Women were prevailed upon not to complain, even when there was <a title=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-02-25\/the-talibans-new-penal-code-two-weeks-days-in-jail-for-breaking-a-womans-arm-and-five-months-for-mistreating-a-camel.html\" href=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-02-25\/the-talibans-new-penal-code-two-weeks-days-in-jail-for-breaking-a-womans-arm-and-five-months-for-mistreating-a-camel.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-link-track-dtm=\"\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-02-25\/the-talibans-new-penal-code-two-weeks-days-in-jail-for-breaking-a-womans-arm-and-five-months-for-mistreating-a-camel.html\">domestic abuse<\/a>. It still happens.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">When I became a judge, I thought I could make a difference in the pronouncements I made.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Q.<\/b> You\u2019re an appeals judge at the International Criminal Court. Previously, you worked at the United Nations International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR). You\u2019ve received several awards over the course of your career. But do you still feel, from time to time \u2013 in work meetings or in your daily life \u2013 that there\u2019s someone in the room who undervalues you because you are a woman?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>A. <\/b>Yes. That has never stopped. It depends on the man you are interacting with, of course. You come across countries and laws that govern the entire world, and they\u2019re skewed in favor of men. This is a continuous struggle for women. We\u2019re not seen in the same way as men on the international scene. In fact, I believe that, in the International Criminal Court, we\u2019re [only] there because they made specific rules <a title=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/education\/2026-07-08\/dutch-university-reserves-30-of-aerospace-engineering-places-for-women-to-tackle-gender-stereotypes.html\" href=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/education\/2026-07-08\/dutch-university-reserves-30-of-aerospace-engineering-places-for-women-to-tackle-gender-stereotypes.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-link-track-dtm=\"\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/education\/2026-07-08\/dutch-university-reserves-30-of-aerospace-engineering-places-for-women-to-tackle-gender-stereotypes.html\">to ensure gender representation.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Q. <\/b>A judge accumulates many human stories. Of all the ones you\u2019ve heard throughout your career, is there one that particularly moved you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>A.<\/b> That\u2019s a difficult question. There are [various cases] of murder, for example. Sometimes it\u2019s the force or the cruelty that\u2019s unleashed on the victim. Even for domestic crime, it can move you: there\u2019s a case that can stick [in your mind] and you can never forget it. But at the international level, [the cruelty] is so much more magnified. It\u2019s unleashed on so many innocent people, with no signs of contrition from the perpetrators \u2013 it really shakes one\u2019s belief in humanity. I would name <a title=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2025-10-03\/genocide-the-power-of-a-word-a-history-of-the-crime-of-crimes.html\" href=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2025-10-03\/genocide-the-power-of-a-word-a-history-of-the-crime-of-crimes.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-link-track-dtm=\"\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2025-10-03\/genocide-the-power-of-a-word-a-history-of-the-crime-of-crimes.html\">the Rwandan genocide<\/a>, because I tried several cases [related to] that situation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Q. <\/b>What has your work taught you about human nature?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>A.<\/b> My assessment is that human nature has not changed one bit. We are still unnecessarily cruel, selfish. I don\u2019t know how to describe our situation. But also, there\u2019s a lot of good that good people do. Unfortunately, the bad things outshine the good.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Q. <\/b>Last year, <a title=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-05-13\/trumps-attack-on-the-international-criminal-court-tests-nations-support-for-humanitarian-justice.html\" href=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-05-13\/trumps-attack-on-the-international-criminal-court-tests-nations-support-for-humanitarian-justice.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-link-track-dtm=\"\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-05-13\/trumps-attack-on-the-international-criminal-court-tests-nations-support-for-humanitarian-justice.html\">the Trump administration sanctioned<\/a> you and your fellow colleagues at the International Criminal Court following separate investigations linked to American and Israeli officials in Afghanistan and Gaza. What exactly do these sanctions entail? And how do they affect you personally, the ICC and the NGOs that you collaborate with on the ground?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>A.<\/b> These sanctions are a disaster. First of all, they\u2019re a shock to us as professionals doing our work. Secondly, they don\u2019t [bode] well for the course of international justice. Judges should not be punished for doing their work. Even internet banking becomes difficult, because you can\u2019t update any app [or transfer money]. All [the banking apps] are related to the U.S. system.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Q.<\/b> And do these sanctions also have an impact on the Gazan population?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>A.<\/b> Sanctions do have an impact <a title=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-07-03\/a-heatwave-in-a-miserable-tent-in-gaza-i-dream-of-a-glass-of-cold-water.html\" href=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-07-03\/a-heatwave-in-a-miserable-tent-in-gaza-i-dream-of-a-glass-of-cold-water.html\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-link-track-dtm=\"\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/english.elpais.com\/international\/2026-07-03\/a-heatwave-in-a-miserable-tent-in-gaza-i-dream-of-a-glass-of-cold-water.html\">on Gaza\u2019s population<\/a>. [They have] an impact because judges feel coerced. If the people who investigate these crimes \u2013 [the people] who would be able to provide the evidence \u2013 are sanctioned and they cannot assist the prosecutor, what does that tell [us] about law and order in the world? It is a threat to the individual judges. It\u2019s a disaster for the victims of international crime.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>Q. <\/b>What do you think Trump was trying to achieve with that decision?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\"><b>A.<\/b> Our interpretation isn\u2019t very different from what governments have told us: they want to see a change of attitude. That means that they want us to decide the cases as <i>they <\/i>want them to be decided. But that\u2019s not our duty. 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